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Ashley



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:09 pm    Post subject: Received Wildguides Britains Hoverflies Reply with quote

Huge congratulations to Roger and Stuart on the publication of this wonderful new book it's just what was needed. I'm very excited and have been thumbing through it since i got it this afternoon. Many thanks to you both, you should be proud of your latest achievement. cheers and all the best and roll on the summer, i cant wait.
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pierre mille



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:47 pm    Post subject: Book on hoverflies present in England Reply with quote

Hi all,

Regarding the book "Hoverflies Britain : an introduction to Hoverflies of Britain" I highly recommend it.

The plastic is couvertrue (happiness), the images are of high quality.

I love the pictures of different morphological characters within each particular tribe or some kind of distinction between different species.

I ordered on the Amazon site and the package left on March 13 and I received it on 19.

http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/069115659X/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1X6FK5RDHNB96


Frankly, what I saw on hoverflies was very successful because the sake of realism and quality were present.
However, the book "Hoverflies Britain" by Roger Stuart and far exceeds my expectations and what I saw. Congratulations to Roger and Stuart !

The book is very educational and didactic for me.

The achievement of this book is a great success, I'm impressed.

A French expression: "Hats off to the authors" or "Chapeau bas aux auteurs "

Best wishes

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Roger K.A. Morris



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Pierre

I'm glad you like the book.

We would prefer that people did not buy from Amazon because they have so undercut the price in the UK that it is pretty nearly impossible for anybody to compete - including us. If we did not have a very favourable author's discount we could not even buy the book ourselves at the cost that Amazon is advertising. Dealers normally get 35% discount (which in this case would be £16.22) - Amazon in the UK are advertising at below £16.00 + p&p!

As a result, they have effectively killed the income that we had hoped to make for Dipterists Forum! We are now having to match their price in order not to be accused of profiteering, and that means that the paltry sums that will be generated will not go far in developing new products to help with identifications.

Worse still, they don't pay UK tax, but UK-based dealers who cannot compete will have to pay tax! I guess this means that the buyer does well, but the designers, authors and charitable body that the book was designed to help all lose out. That cannot be good for the future of taxonomy because there has to be a return on effort for re-investment in new keys.

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Roger
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Roger,

I admit to having choose the Amazon site not by choice to pay less absolutely but by ease.

Indeed, when I order from Amazon http://www.amazon.fr , I am delivered not at my home, but in a package for reasons of facilities & relay and in addition I pay in euros. Often the package does not fit in my mailbox. Now your post drew my attention because I am sensitive to your arguments and sincerely I ignored that competition from a merchant service offered by Amazon could be detrimental for the authors and the book more generally.

I am frankly sorry to be addressed to me at this site for this purchase, I admit not seen this aspect of the problem especially from this angle. Know Roger that, even if I do not have to state here, I do not take lightly the remuneration of authors. In my professional life I am assistant to the Council of State http://www.conseil-etat.fr/ , which is an institution having an advisory role legal Government. I am sad to contact damage caused by globalization on the poorest.I'm sorry for the damage for you and for those who participated in the realization of this book.

Maybe have I to ask it before buying. What is the merchant site that you have advised me in this case?

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Roger K.A. Morris



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Pierre

Do not worry - there are plenty of others who will use Amazon and we have to be realistic that it is going to eventually wipe out all of the other booksellers. Supermarkets are well on the way to doing the same to small shops and the internet has crippled specialist shops such as photographic outlets. It is a sad fact of life.

I guess the main issue is that Amazon has got such a stranglehold that their name immediately comes to the top of the list when looking for a source.

I'm not familiar with booksellers in France - I would guess that it makes no sense to buy from a UK dealer - DF is quite closely linked to Pemberley Books but there are others.

From this experience I am pretty convinced that we have to publish independently and only go through a limited suite of dealers. It may mean we shift fewer books, but we can adjust to that by using Print on Demand and simply holding enough in stock for a year or so.

Our next book is some years away, apart from the supplement to Stubbs & Falk, which we hope to produce this autumn.

Best wishes

Roger
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Roger

I'll be more careful next time.

Buy in £ English bookseller bothers me not at all, if such an approach can help and especially to bring small business edition and, therefore, the authors themselves.I already bought in the bookstore http://www.pemberleybooks.com/ and http://www.nhbs.com/britains_hoverflies_tefno_185594.html and recently.

I even bought the book "British identification SYRPHID AN ILLUSTRATED GUIDE 2nd edition by Alan Stubbs and Steven Falk ' in this library http://www.malthousebooks.co.uk/index_files/Page348.htmI expect the publication of the book "British SOLDIERFLIES and their allies by Alan Stubbs and Martin Drake with photographs" in colour by David Wilson

What is the book "supplement to Stubbs & Falk, which we hope to produce this autumn" I am taker and therefore very interested Very Happy .

Bon dimanche Laughing

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Roger K.A. Morris



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Pierre

The supplement will deal with species added to the British list since Stubbs & Falk was published back in 2002. It will also update some of the information on species.

For UK Dipterists it will be useful, I'm not sure whether it will be quite so important for continental dipterists because I guess you already use Van Veen?

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Roger
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Roger,

I used to read publications written in English but orally is deleterious.

I have participated in 2012 in a working group on the syrphid, which was organized by the group in the list of Mr Dussaix http://cyrille.dussaix.pagesperso-orange.fr/
, and I met Mr Martin C.D. Speight and fortunately he spoke the French because my oral English is disastrous.


I am member of BWARS http://www.bwars.com/index.php?q=home and I was able to speak with Mr Stuart Robertsbut I take the time to read all English publications (even those on the updates of the maps) and obviously those of Diptersits forum.

I have even all Volucella publications. http://www-alt.naturkundemuseum-bw.de/stuttgart/volucella/?p=verzeichnis&LANG=EN


When I'll be more comfortable to speak properly English I come in England attend a seminar or training specific hoverfly.


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